Tim Minchin’s amusing beat poem describes a dinner party in which he confronts a hippy. Recorded live at the Queen Elizabeth Hall in London in December 08.
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Ever thought about writing an opera!?
You’ve done nothing to defend what he attacked… you simply attacked back…
Both the characters in this “song” are morons. Religion is a science – and one of the first ones. It’s a primitive science that looks at what happens to people and tries to explain it. Naturally with very little “evidence” to use – some religions have ended up pretty harmful – like some science has. I believe that truth, god and love are beyond the comprehension of humans – but I applaud anyone who has the heart to search.
@cphmau Whaa? By definition, religion demands that you accept its teaching on faith.
Science demands that you question its assertions and test them through experimentation, and the hypotheses that don’t survive experimentation are discarded.
Religion claims unchangable absolutes. In science, -everything- is subject to revision and improvement as more information becomes available. Religion holds central teachings static. Science, on the other hand, is self-correcting. They’re not the same!
Science and Religion both suffer from dogma and doctrine but are not defined by them. Faith and Religion are not the same thing – just as Science and Faith are not the same thing. It is nonsense to suggest that religion does not adapt to new evidence although some religions have become very slow to adapt! Science does not seek to fulfil the same human needs as religion and so cannot replace religion with a “most true” version of reality.
lol, i can’t believe there are 9 other amitais!
& I guess we might as well be back in time, for all the chance Tim Minchin will change his mind… Hippies have their place, I wonder who first found out that wood could be used for medicinal use.. I can be sure it wasn’t someone thinking all those who don’t know medicine are up to no good. The witch doctor’s herbs, even if they are now used as medicine, having been scientifically proven to work, started out as someone’s little magic ‘that worked’.
@IBImogen the person who found out wood could be used as medicine Dr.Hippocrates(name sound familiar?) around 400 bc.The great thing about science is it doesnt shut any doors its open to anything as long as it can be scientifally proven to work. While most naturallistic cures cant be proven and the ones that can…is just medicine. and for the ones that arent proven people go on rants about drug compaines and how they stop it from happening because it would hurt sales. aka the point on the song
@cphmau Which ‘human needs’? Maslow’s heirarchy says nothing about talking to an invisible cosmic imaginary friend.
@KemaTheAtheist
Dude said that making fun of people isn’t cool, not that it should be illegal. Would you counter “Lying isn’t nice,” with the argument that free speech gives everyone a right to lie?
@Machinehead645
“Ive decided that TIm doesnt hate religion, he just hates stupid people and Hippies”
Haven’t seen his stand-up have you?
@ObsidianStray
“Dude said that making fun of people isn’t cool, not that it should be illegal. Would you counter “Lying isn’t nice,” with the argument that free speech gives everyone a right to lie?”
Go read the whole conversation from 8 months ago before trying to jump in based on one comment, please.
OH MY FUCKING GOD… THERES A FUCKING CHRISTIAN AD ON THIS PAGE
@ObsidianStray Dude is not making an argument that needs to be countered. It says nothing about whether something is right to say “that’s not nice.” If your opinion is so fragile that someone saying it’s stupid is all it takes for you to change your mind, your opinion is probably wrong. If that’s the case, people need to get over themselves and stop thinking “That’s meeean!” is anything but a childish, whiny complaint. It’s valid to make fun of people when they’re saying something laughable.
brilliant, brilliant, brilliant
Love is a fabricated emotion.
Tim is brilliant.
@IBImogen Those herbs you speak of still don’t work *just* because the hippie believes they work. They work because they have some component that has that effect.
And that was proven by science and not by sitting around thinking happy thoughts and chanting. aka the whole message of the song. Or did you miss the alternative medicine that has been proven to work is called medicine part?
@IBImogen
Way to miss the point.
Oh. My. No God.
This is AWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWESOME. I had great respect for Tim before, but now…
@IBImogen Then it wasnt fucking magic was it?
@BigBadNightWolf LOL, I get that all the time, whenever I watch a video with atheistic content, there is some stupid christian ad
(I’m in Western Europe btw)
playing with a compass today in maths, made me think of this <3
The people who disliked this are the Storms of the world.
i can relate to this so well, he should have included something about people not having their kids vaccinated
so many people i want to show this to, chief of which at the moment is Phsycic Sally!